up for people to come and learn and fire at east atrocious weapons, but do it in a safe, you know, environment, and the most important thing that would start a buy log between the gun owners and the first responders or the people that actually have been in combat, and the big thing about that, i think it will alleviate a big problem, which is the mistrust of these gun owners of law enforcement. so you put them together -- >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: they will see that the cops aren't nazis coming to get their guns but they will start a buy log -- >> stephanie: maybe they can have a dialogue about what it looks like to walk into a grade school and see what they have to see -- >> caller: exactly. that's what i mean. it's like you can go and -- i -- i don't hunt, but i like skeet shooting. i have been to, you know firing ranges. but if you put them together you lower the paranoia you lower the rhetoric. you lower the insane debate. >> stephanie: yeah that's what i don't get. right-wingers are all law and order until the police have a thought. >> but you are assuming everyone on that side is lo